FUR TREUE DIENSTE. authentication is very difficult. German Cl., - marked L/52 20, An LDO Case for Iron Cross 1st Class 1939, Iron Cross First Class 1939 - WWI Style Pin, A 1939 First Class Iron Cross; Screw Back Tpye, A Iron Cross First Class 1939 by Friedrich Orth, A Cased Iron Cross First Class 1939 by Otto Schickle. The least issued and more expensive variant is the pin or screw-back model, known simply to collectors as the Iron CrossFirst Class. This is almost a sure sign your iron cross is real. Thin Blue Line flags, thin red line flags, subdued flags. Not only are these items increasingly rare and valuable, they are also a lovely small item that can fit into a display frame of cabinet with ease. Another thing that adds value to a medal is when it comes with the box or paper envelope that it was issued in. A 1939 Iron Cross Second Class iron core un-used from a manufacturer. During WW2 around 4,500,000 2nd class Iron Crosses were awarded and around 300,000 1st class. Not least because these medals are easy to display and small enough to not take up much room. All medals for sale are one-offs so please check for availability. German WW2 Iron Cross 1st Class, maker marked '26'. Having said that, at least one maker of high quality reproductions has made magnetic reproductions in the past, but these don't show up too frequently thankfully. A. Werner & Sohne (See Manufacturers Marks), Heinrich Schneider (? I FOR AUCTION IS A WORLD WAR 2 GERMAN IRON CROSS SECOND CLASS WITH THE MAKER'S MARK # 25 STAMPED INTO THE RING. Be aware that some dealers who may not have detailed knowledge, may innocently be passing off a fake that they themselves fell for as a genuine item. All for free! Below is an example of an Iron Cross 1st class from Malcolm Wagner Militaria. There were 5,196,000 awarded, this is almost 1 in every 3 soldiers in the Imperial German army receiving one! Badges Marked, Shinkelform A simple fridge magnet can show you that a cross is magnetic and can be a big indicator that you have an original. Many originals are unmarked and many copies are makers marked so please do not take a makers as a guarantee an item is original. The 1939 plaque is the type that is cut at 45 degree angles at the ends. WW2 German Waffenamt (Waa) Markings, Codes & Manufacturers. MilitariaToday is full of interesting militaria. This indicates that two sections of the frame have been joined over the top of the iron core. View G6443 Add to Compare. opposite halves of the frame were struck separately with dies that yielded a Cl.,- W. Deumer $380. Frame Two examples of this were civilian test pilots Hanna Reitsch who was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class and 1st Class and Melitta Schenk Grfin von Stauffenberg, who was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class, for their actions as pilots during World War II. . Documents Most Collectors / sellers with just one or two items to sell: Send us an email to info@militariatoday.comwith 3-5 clear photos of the item, item description (be as descriptive as possible), location, price and shipping options, and we will shortlist it to be included in upcoming articles. Panzergrenadier in the 116th Panzer Division "Windhund" Review is for bakery items." more. normal if a little less desired by the average collector. We also recommend purchasing through a credit card or PayPal goods and services. the technological advancements were carried over to the awards industry - where previous Iron Crosses had been Combat soldiers tended to hold the War Merit Cross in low regard, referring to its wearers as being in 'Iron Cross Training'. Ray, I think I would agree with you - same beading flaws near the swastika and similar pin/catch setup. Zimmermann Collecting is about community and enjoyment. The rear plate would be on the inside of the tunic and not visible when worn.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'militariatoday_com-leader-4','ezslot_12',704,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-militariatoday_com-leader-4-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'militariatoday_com-leader-4','ezslot_13',704,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-militariatoday_com-leader-4-0_1');.leader-4-multi-704{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:15px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:15px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;min-width:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important;width:100%}Rear view showing the fastening plate removed.Rear view again; this time showing the fastening plate in place. Because of its 3 piece construction the black part of the cross will normally move around. metal plate with only the attachment mechanism present. 19448 WORLD WAR ONE IRON CROSS SECOND CLASS RING STAMPED AS FOUND more info 19438 IRON CROSS SECOND CLASS RING STAMPED 100 Stamped 100 for the maker Rudolf Wachler & Lange more info 19432 IRON CROSS SECOND CLASS RING STAMPED 25 Stamped 25 for the maker AG Hanau Berlin more info 19401 WORLD WAR ONE IRON CROSS SECOND CLASS Ring stamped Another variation is the type of rear screw back plate. pictured below. As a result, we cannot show you the price in catalog or the product page. Constructed of 3 pieces, the 1st class was a breast badge and There are of course innocent dealers who have been fooled with a convincing fake, and then unintentionally passed it on to an unwitting customer. Badges Cross Crosses with good original paintwork to the core tend to command higher prices, but the worn and knocked about ones also have a charm. Each maker had their own individual mark or code and that created fractional differences in their construction techniques. The fakes are made of cheap metals that won't stick to the magnet. War Watch out for the condescending 'rivet counters' though who may not be as welcoming as they should be to new collectors. WW2 German Waffenamt (Waa) Markings, Codes & Manufacturers. Tick "+1" to bid one more increment if bidding is against you. Cross Worn on a length or ribbon and a loop around the neck. Soldering line If you have a social media and/or eBay account, feelfreeto include these in your e-mail aswell. Show your support and buy veteran-made wooden American flags. points of the cross were hand filed to be slightly curved and this fact, Grab the cross and shake it. Discussion The First Class 1939 Iron Cross came in a variety of styles with a flat or convex blackened iron or alloy body. The obverse of this Awards Belts / Belt Buckles; Cloth Insignia; Documents and Photographs; Edged Weapons; Headgear; . For most militaria collectors, they are in the hands of honest dealers to be open with what it is that they are selling. Once again, either types of fastener could carry the manufacturers own code but they are often found with no makers code at all. by a soldier, or one that was perhaps received, worn, and shows its age. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). Additional details particular to plated iron for the center of the Iron Cross First Class. 10. View. Germany. The EK2 was hung from the medal loop on a medal ribbon and could be attached to the breast on the ribbon. an extremely difficult challenge to the modern day collector as their Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. Awards variation. Screw Back 1939 Iron Cross First Class $ 325.00. The fully encased reverse was plain except for the occasional maker's mark on either the surface or pin. I don't think it looks similar to these at all. tougher. purchased screw-back system (discussed below in To receive an Iron Cross 1st class, a soldier would have to repeat this feat multiple times. This is somewhat subjective, and based on experience, but experts look for a texture of the metal and the paint of the iron core as veins and aged imperfections in the iron can bubble up or show rust, lines and imperfections with age. First look for any markings on the ring. They were awarded after the 2nd Class Cross had been earned and this medal does not have a ribbon. materials, usually brass but also possibly zinc. Whilst numerous and widely awarded during WW2, they are now becoming much scarcer. It is maker marked 65on the clip stem, and is in verygood condition. However, many are sadly well constructed and are frequently sold as original. pressure. The construction remained the same with it being built out of 3 pieces and of course the overall quality of production never wavered. An iron core may also have traces of rust after over one hundred years - or less, in the case of WW2 examples. Sadly, the interest in Iron Crosses and the symbolism of them makes them one of the most heavily manufactured reproduction items out there. Rings are hooked to the Knights Cross, the ribbons are The basic design of the WWII crosses is a central cross patee struck from iron and mounted in a silver frame which has a raised crenulated decorative border. Single piece moulded fakes can therefore have paint on the lower inside portions of the silver coloured frames that adjoin the supposed black painted iron core from being painted after moulding. Iron Cross maker mark 26 for BH Mayer of Pforzheim, PO Box 72 Mudgeeraba QLD Australia 4213 significant exception that the So being non-magnetic doesn't always mean that it's fake, but being magnetic means it does have a higher chance of being legit for a new collector who is not across the finer points of identifying Iron Crosses. Merit Cross So some telltale signs to look for here are: - When you look at the silver frame side on can you see a join / line running down the side of the frame? Both types were issued during WW1 and then restored to prominence by Adolf Hitler during WW2. therefore the reverse was a solid silvered importance or a long steady career could earn the individual the Cross. 345. The obverse of the cross bears the date 1939 under a "mobile" swas. these were made from the 1914 dies and thus have narrower features, as Because there was not A Knight's Cross of The Iron Cross that has some wear and character to it. Here are views of the. ), Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silberschemiede-Innungen, Arbeitsgemeinschaft fr Heereshedarf in der Graveur-ubd Ziselierung, Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller, Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silverschmeide-Innungen, German Iron Cross 1st & 2nd Class Maker Marks (EK1 & EK2). A 1939 EK1 Screwback marked L52 for C. F Zimmermann of Pforzheim. On this fake you can see an obvious flaw in the middle and tell it's painted a flat black. seen in this picture of an Iron Cross 1st Class. 95.00 & WW2 German FAITHFUL SERVICE CROSS with enamel. If you wish to purchase any item online, we always recommend researching the items authenticity, consulting experts. German Service war. WW2 Iron Cross First Class The First Class medal is the more difficult one to find and as only around 300,000 were issued, they have continued to see a steady increase in value. Iron Cross 1st Class, Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und A 1939 Iron Cross 2nd Class in original paper envelope of issue. This is another nice example of the same medal, and this one comes with an original photograph/postcard of a soldier in a Pioneer dress uniform proudly displaying the cross being worn. I've got a first class iron cross, an unmarked one. that may be observed in some Iron Crosses called "veining", a series of raised If however someone has a pattern of passing on such . 575,000 Iron Cross 1st Class were awarded during World War II. A nice EK grouping that came with the soldier's documents and photo albums. It is priced at 145.Front of the crossThe reverse of the crossif(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'militariatoday_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_23',550,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-militariatoday_com-large-leaderboard-2-0');Makers marks. (courtesy William Stump) which shows the cloth cross in wear. Which assertion (if either) is correct will probably never be antique feel. Looking at the side profile of the award confirms the correct multi-layer construction. This award was created by Adolf Hitler in October 1939 as a successor to the non-combatant Iron Cross which was used in earlier wars (similar medal but with a different ribbon). Typical rear of a 1939 EK1 sure back, this one marked L52 for Zimmermann. Most crosses will show evidence of filing all around was distributed in great numbers, the superior quality of the crosses manufactured An early WW2 EK1 Vaulted Pinback by Meybauer with pin design reminiscent of their WW1 and inter-war versions. If you have the time, joining some online expert chat rooms and social media groups can be useful to tap friendly experts and build some knowledge. Join in if you dare! All for free! World War II. Awards In terms of production, it was fairly similar. white. EK1 WW1 area between each of the arms was likewise solid. The final step of frame preparation on the reverse of the upper arm was added to keep the Cross from rotating on its axis. When Challenge Coin Company was officially founded in 1995, it was the only military coin design and manufacturing company solely owned by a retired U.S. "The Knights Cross of the Iron Cross, similar to the Most reputable traders will happily take an item back if you arent happy with it. only a limited number of manufacturers switched to this method. Two methods were employed for manufacturing during the One can only assume that the firms that were out of Note that age and wear makes this possible on some, but a tightly fitting frame may not permit this technique and the cross may still be legit. Cross fastening mechanism (a pin or "screwback", discussed in the 1st Class Fakers can also add numbers to Crosses, so look out for that, and often multiple factors should be taken into account over and above a maker mark to determine real from an aged fake. relation to the rim since these also range a few millimeters up or down, although they should never be touching the frost finish. A 1939 Iron Cross 2nd Class maker marked 113 for Aurich. . Iron Cross I and Iron Cross II, is created as follows: The rim is made of and Firearms The medal and photo are available from IMCS Militaria in Holland. crosses have developed an aged look - the collectors' patina. Although it than others. pulled through it and the cross gets packaged in boxes and then they are Iron section). Germany decorated deserving members of the Spanish Blue material, dictated that a strand of wire 4.5 mm think be wrapped in an outline class was devoid of detail except for its year of original institution, 1813, placed on the lower 70.00 & WW2 original German FAITHFUL SERVICE CROSS with enamel. Iron Cross 1st class, EKI (Eisernes Kreuz I Klasse mit Etui) by Wilhelm Deumer (L/11 maker mark). There are many fine and highly sought after Crosses that are not marked. Is it of three sectioned / three piece construction? kills. Original Items: Only One Available. This is where a magnifying glass comes in handy. The First Class medal is the more difficult one to find and as only around 300,000 were issued, they have continued to see a steady increase in value. It was established by King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia in March 1813 backdated to the birthday of his late wife Queen Louise on 10 March 1813 during the Napoleonic Wars (EK 1813). As the originals are very valuable, they are also commonly faked and post-war hybrids or fakes are often quite convincingly passed off as the real thing. The 1st Class Spange to the Iron Cross (Repetition Clasp) 1939 was awarded to those who has already received the imperial 1st Class Iron Cross 1914 and earned the 1st Class Iron Cross again in WWII. The "veins" can be clearly German Iron Cross 1st & 2nd Class Maker Marks (EK1 & EK2). Uniforms Clasp to the Iron Cross 1939 1st Class, 2nd Type by S & L. Germany. actual details of the core, the Swastika and dates, also vary from maker to In this case '24'. Beware also of 'forum heroes' who enjoy deriding items owned by others, or shooting down items unjustly, and they can occasionally be guilty of pronouncing as fakes genuine items that are of lesser known variants. Could anyone help me to determine its maker ? As with the appreciated in this gives away that the cross has seen the passing of the years, it gives it that The reverse in the 2nd The EKII ribbon issued during both wars could be indicated on a combat uniform by placing a strip of the ribbon through the second button hole down from the neck. The Iron Cross (Eisernes Kreuz, abbreviated EK) was a military decoration in the Kingdom of Prussia, and later in the German Empire (18711918) and NSDAP Germany (19331945). This list can become very handy. In this case '24'. produce the crosses unabated for both veteran and collector alike. consist of either a hinged pin and catch, or the privately (Maria Schenkl) = 27. be used. Excellent Plus. with most Iron Crosses the 1939 version was constructed of three pieces; I mentioned the plain version of the fixing plate when discussing the previous item, and this is a fine example of that. Some are numbers some combinations of letter and number. Hersteller (Manufacturer) Marking Maker Location Reserve Paypal friends and family for those you personally trust explicitly. each grade are reviewed in their respective sections. Oszeres, Jan 26, 2010 #23. chris222 recruit. World War II was the first mechanized war, and Iron Cross 1st class, EKI (Eisernes Kreuz I Klasse mit Etui) by Klein & Quenzer (65). of copper, zinc and nickel, although a few rare examples may be found made of non-plated zinc frames. combined with the natural erosion Dana's Cake Shoppe. Again, totally free! Use of the decoration was revived by William I for the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, recreated in 1914 for World War I, and last revived by Adolf Hitler on Sept. 1, 1939, the same day that German forces invaded Poland. It was issued without a ribbon and it fastened directly to the tunic pocket of the recipient. 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Have a look at the images below of genuine Crosses from our collection to see some of the characteristics referenced here. an Iron Cross that has maintained its gleaming silver finish through the years The pin-and-catch mechanism can very often reveal clues as to who They represent military gallantry, albeit from the other side of those major conflicts for Aussie collectors. An early WW2 EK1 Vaulted Pinback by Meybauer with pin design reminiscent of their WW1 and inter-war versions. As German troops had the custom of actually wearing their awards and decorations into combat (as seen in virtually all wartime images) many soldiers legitimately made private purchases of licensed versions their awarded Crosses for field wear. Here is an example from The Militaria Shop. Iron Crosses rim. 10 Steps TOOLS I will be comparing the WW2 iron cross which is a fake to a WW1 iron cross which is real. Division and the Blue Legion with Iron Crosses. The 1st and 2nd Class of the 1939 Iron Cross measured 44mm and were perfectly symmetrical, while the Knights Cross measured 48mm. that characterise certain makers. maker. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Two examples of To see more on our policy in this regardCLICK HERE. We also recommend purchasing through a credit card or PayPal goods and services. imagine iron would not last long exposed to the salty atmosphere of the high War This is not true. WW2 Naval Seaplane Pilot Wings by Drago. (click here to read the entire notion that non-magnetic Iron Crosses were issued prior to the LdO flexing Both were given to soldiers for bravery, as well as other significant acts when in a combat environment.Iron Cross Second Class when worn. (Lots 1 to 978), 17th May 2023 9:30am BST From WW1 or WW2 veterans of the allied forces all wanted to take home this iconic medal and as such, the fascination has been passed onto us as collectors. Worn on a length or ribbon and a loop around the neck. They do this from years of handling them and also analysing the small idiosyncrasies of the design, placement of the numbers etc. the tunic. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. This one is in good condition and has a typical vertical rear fixing pin which is not makers marked. This is always a good sign, and a good thing to have up your sleeve should it subsequently prove to be a cleverly faked item. Crosses are often found unmarked and you must compare frames and cores to known examples to find the maker. All parts go through a final handling by the creator Still, this "blur" is not to be confused are "flat", some have a slightly convex appearance. The three sections of the Iron Cross can be seen in this picture. similar but more efficient article. Originally it would have been awarded in a box however most we see these days are missing the box. Typically these crosses are manufactured in 3 pieces with the front and back frame holding the inner iron centre tightly in place. A well worn Iron Cross First Class of the First World War. Whilst it is the 'Iron' Cross, which will make most magnetic, not all genuine Iron Crosses are actually magnetic. This is a sure sign of a fake. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. Forum, A detail view at makers and characteristics of this class, A study of the 1939 Clasps presented to those that had earned the 1914 Iron Cross, section This protects you in case the item never arrives or the item is not as described. The German Iron Cross issued during WW1 or WW2 is one of the most collected of all war medals and yet they are still reasonably easy to find. E. Fred Wiedmann, Frankfurt am Main 20. The first variant we shall discuss is the oversized Iron Cross. plate (before punch) and punched out waste. these Crosses were used, or at least preferred, by Kriegsmarine personnel 8. The rear fixing pin is maker marked L/52 which is attributed to C.F. For manufacturing Now in most cases they are cheaper copies that are clearly modern reproductions like this one below the is currently available from Soldier of Fortune. Crosses it is possible to rattle the iron inside of the frame. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Uniforms [ 23. The iron core was The Iron Cross, prized gallantry award and Allied war trophy. The striking of the core was also a two part process - a first strike to finished product was exceptionally neat, with only the slimmest of lines present. Iron Cross 1st Class Field Made Iron Cross 100.00 1957 Knight's Cross of Iron Cross Ribbon Knights Cross Ribbon 100.00 WW2 Iron Cross 2nd Class Iron Cross 145.00 Iron Cross 2nd Class 1939 German Iron Cross 1939 145.00 Iron Cross 2nd Class Medal Carl Peellarth Iron Cross RESERVED German Iron Cross Medal 2nd Class German Iron Cross 2nd Class wears an Iron Cross 1st Class in cloth (courtesy Frank H.). Sadly they are out there. Iron Cross 1st Class 1939 by Maker 65 - Iron core/magnetic, flat, marked "65" on pin, in very fine condition. very rare crosses. We love to show items for sale from all around the world, so grabthechance toput your item in front of thousands of potential buyers worldwide. Have you seen this article? Iron Crosses are a fascinating part of WW1 and WW2 History (earlier if you choose to go back to the original Prussian awards). Militaria Today can take no responsibility for the shipping, sale or authenticity of the products shown in our posts. Click on flanges. 100% USA Leutnant Bernd Heukemes, $115. Related In order to receive the Iron Cross 1st Class Heer and Waffen SS men would Welcome to the WWII Forums! Jump Section either at the lower arm or the center. An Iron Cross separated Prsidialkanzlei des Fheres must be strictly adhered to. regulation fell in line and resumed the exclusive use of IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The rim of Merit Cross More accurate seems the Like the 2nd class, control. Rare picture We share items and posts of interest to collectors and enthusiasts. 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